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tells us, there's still a disagreement over how to avert the "fiscal cliff." >> reporter: three republican and three democratic governors gate the president their take on how to avoid the "fiscal cliff" this morning at the white house. >> we're not sort of saying it should be that plan or that plan. i think what we all agree on is something has to get done. >> as governors we think it's important that we're part of the discussions both in terms of the impact it has on our finances and our economies. >> reporter: state government cost lose much-needed federal aid if democrats and republicans don't reach a deal to stop automatic spending cuts before the end of the year. the other issue is taxes. congressional republicans want bush-era tax cuts extended for all americans. president obama says those tax cuts must expire for households making $250,000 or more. >> it's a position that is supported by a majority of the american people. and, you know, we need to see from republicans an acknowledgement of that. >> reporter: the gop proposal that the white house quickly rejected closes t
the so-called fiscal cliff. this morning president obama will host some of the nation's governors to spread his message. the president wants to raise 1.6 trillion in revenue by increasing taxes on the top 2% of income earners. republicans counted with a 2.2 trillion dollar deficit reduction plan, 800 billion dollars in revenue, but didn't call for raising tax rates on wealthy. the proposal was quickly ejected with the white house. >>> new -- rejected by the white house. >>> new poll shows -- gallup asked americans to rate honesty and ethical standards car salesmen got lowest marks 8% marked them high or very high. congress is just above them, only 10% scored in the top two categories to be honest. journalists 24%. top of the rankings, nurses, 84% of americans gave them the highest marks and of course meteorologists right behind that >> i was going to say even though it is not darn -- not a 100% science -- [ talking over each other ] >> 100% science that has accuracy, a little less -- okay stop digging. [ talking over each other ] >> they didn't rate meteorologists i wonder who is
obama said tax rates must rise on the wealthiest americans as part of any deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. this morning r the president met with a bipartisan group of governors at the white house. jerry brown was not among them. the group did not endorse any specific proposal on avoiding the sharp tax and spending cuts that could take effect in january. president obama says it's possible that the tax rates could later be lowered as part of a comprehensive tax overhaul. >>> police responding to an early-morning burglary in san jose are surprised at what they found. we'll have exclusive video of the discovery. >>> rosemary's back in about nine minutes to tell you more about the new storm rolling in and when rain will increase in your neighborhood. >>> it's a first of its kind set up in the bay area. ahead with a new solar facility dedicated an hour ago is getting a lot of attention. on your prepaid card? introducing chase liquid. the reloadable card with no fee reloads and withdrawals at chase atms. all for one flat monthly fee so there's zero confusion. get rid of prepaid problems. get cha
cliff. this morning president obama will host some of nation's governors to spread his message. the president wants to raise 1.6 trillion in revenue by increasing taxes on top 2% of income earners. republicans countered with plan it would raise 800 billion dollars in revenue but doesn't call for raising tax rates on the wealthy the proposal was quickly rejected by the white house. >>> if you plan to fly anywhere for the holiday, book your flight right away. >> here's jane king with the bloomberg business report. >>> good morning. if you are thinking of flying over the holidays and don't have a ticket yes, book fast. airfares are up 4% compared to last year now that advanced purchase window can keep costs down if you buy 21 days in advance. if you are looking to save, christmas day airfares are cheaper along with december 27th and 31st, 17th and 18, may be good. congress gearing up to overall haul student loan debt collection wisconsin representative expected to introduce a measure this week that would require employers to withhold payments to pay back the loan. watch for e-mail
in on these fiscal cliff talks. here is "the new york times" -- in the "financial times" this morning -- roger altman writing today in "the financial times." president obama will be meeting with several governors today at the white house to talk about the fiscal cliff. they will be meeting this morning around 10:00 a.m. eastern time, and then the governors are slated to hold a news conference at around 11:30 a.m. eastern time. go to our website for more details. washington insiders tackle fiscal cliff policy solutions. the group will hold a roundtable discussion today on the importance of reform to address the nation's debt and deficit spending this event takes place this morning around 8:30 a.m. eastern time. go to our website for all our coverage of the fiscal cliff talks. we have a web site set up so you can follow along on our special page for these fiscal cliff talks. back to your phone calls. good morning, doris. caller: good morning. the plan that the republicans offered, this is just the romney-ryan plan that the american voters said no to. other than destroying our earned benefit, i do not c
of changes there. our road map this morning starts with the latest in the fiscal cliff negotiations. the white house promptly rebuffs the gop counterproposal which calls for $800 billion in new tax revenue but without tax rate increases for the wealthy. could this tax issue deadlock the talks? >>> bank of america ceo warns the cliff must get stalled or the economy could be stifled well into 2014. >>> even more dividends pushed into 2012. coach, american eagle moving up and oracle will play out three-quarters of dividends this year. >>> more strength in housing this morning. toll brothers earnings top expectations. we'll begin with the fiscal cliff. governors are set to meet today with the president and congressional leaders. governors are concerned about the impact of deficit reduction measures on their state budgebu. the latest gop offer would overhaul the tax code, raise $800 billion in new revenue but seek $600 billion in health savings, net savings add up to about $2.2 trillion over ten years. boehner called the white house's original offer la la land and it does appear that eve
republicans want to solve washington's fiscal cliff dilemma, and what the democrats are saying about it. we'll talk about that, and much more with our special guest this morning, the former british prime minister tony blair is with us. but planes from iran. revolutionary guards showing off what they are claiming to be is a captured american drone. coming up why the pentagon says don't believe it. >>> and baby makes three at buckingham palace. the royal couple, will and kate, creating a media frenzy on both sides of the pond with word that they are expecting. we're going to go live to london. >> talk about this morning, in addition to tony blair, we're talking to democratic congressman xavier becerra, republican senator ron johnson from the state of wisconsin, also pat houston, whitney houston's sister-in-law and manager and jeopardy champion ken jennings written a new book. it's tuesday, december 4th, "starting point" begins right now. >>> welcome everybody, you're watching "starting point." we're honored this morning to have the former british prime minister tony blair with us as our guest
accounted for. >>> jane king live from the new york stock exchange. >>> good morning. january 1st, fiscal cliff getting closer. boehner the president a letter you lining the republicans' plan it took two hours for the white house to reject it, saying it benefits wealth any and sticks middle class with the bill. republicans want cuts to -- [ unintelligible ] we have quiet start here on wall street, positive, dow and s&p, nasdaq lower investors continuing to track what is going on in washington. bloomberg index this morning a little lower. another positive report on home prices up 6.3% in october biggest jump since june of 2006. pending forecast indicates november index up more than 7% in california better, up more than 9% in october. live at the new york stock exchange, i'm jane king. >> you passed on grease how about a little singing in the rain? >> [ unintelligible ] >> if mike wants to sing, go ahead. >> sing and dance. >> soft shoe over there. >> i have an umbrella for you. you -- good morning. 6:48, looking from mount tamalpais this morning back down on what is mainly cloudy to the so
, with only four weeks to go before we reach that fiscal cliff, republicans offer a proposal for a new deal. it had few specifics. the white house rejected it. tracie potts joins us from washington with the details. >> reporter: good morning, everyone. with a white house proposal and republican proposal on the table, you'd think we would have somewhere to begin negotiations. the white house says what republicans have offered isn't even a start. six governors, democrats, and republicans weigh in on the fiscal cliff today. what will they tell president obama about the spending cuts and tax increases now just 28 days away? >> we must reign in our out of control spending. >> reporter: republicans have an offer, $800 billion in new taxes, half what the president wanted. $600 billion saved in part by making americans wait until they're 67 to get medicare. plus more cuts totalling $2.2 trillion. but no tax hikes for the wealthy. >> that's just not going to happen. >> reporter: the pentagon could take the biggest hit from president obama told defense experts monday, don't worry. >> even as we make
to speed this morning. president obama rejecting a fiscal cliff counter offer from republicans. the gop proposal calls for $2.2 trillion in deficit savings over the next decade, including 800 billion from tax reform. 600 billion from medicare reform, 600 billion in spending cuts. the white house is refusing to consider it because it doesn't include tax hikes for the wealthiest americans. >>> and britain is rife with speculation this morning, is kate having a boy, or a girl? is she having twins? triplets? what about a name? britain is buzzing with news that prince william's wife, katherine, is pregnant. she is in a london hospital being treated for severe morning sickness. >>> students at one elementary school in atlanta will attend class in a different building this morning. dozens were sickened yesterday at their regular school by carbon monoxide poisoning. at least 49 were sent to the hospital. fire officials believe the heating system failed. later this morning we will talk to a student, a parent and a school official. >>> the judge overseeing the court marshall of nadal hassan has b
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always laughing with me ♪ >> stephanie: good morning, charlie pierce. >> i'm falling it off the cliff? >> stephanie: what did you call it? the gentel fiscal incline. >> that's right. it's like they have taken all of any bad things about any way they cover on-coming hurricanes and transplanted them. >> stephanie: yeah. i love your stuff on this week. because i misplaced the remote in my hotel and throwing a shoe through a television is frowned upon my most hotel chains i came across mornings with joe. the president just won election on this issue, and it really is -- as you call it mock horror, right? >> yeah, i think even in his -- his quivering heart of hearts john boehner knows the essential parameters of the deal are going to be what geithner laid out, not what he laid out. >> stephanie: yeah. we have been mocking him about i have never seen anything like this. yes, you do. it's what he ran on. >> exactly. i think this is a little bit better than the offer the president made last time. >> stephanie: yes, because he won an election in the meantime. >> right. there
on the fiscal cliff talks. where will have more on this coming up. >> now at least in the early morning commute we have been for the most part dry. >> maybe later on tonight, for arrests of the bay area is dry tuesday morning. there are no issues. it is cool and it will remain cool as we head into afternoon. it is really to mar when the modern iran will pick up.tomorre rain will pick up. >> the cool front is around eureka. i will walk you through the timing and what to expect. >> chp are checking into a car fire that is on the san mateo bridge. this is the only problem and traffic looks good at the bay bridge and metering lights have been activated. the salmon tell bridge is problem feehigh'd to pick up a little slowing. arrest of the bay area is light. >> things are picking up for meaning. the trend is up and running and all. the power was not bonot doubt. >> let's talk about closures. we have four fire stations across contra costa county that will close in early january after voters rejected a measure that would have funded the stations. to get you more news faster we turn to kron 4 as sole
's coming up at the top of the hour. >> good morning. speaking of the fiscal cliff, we have the majority whip, kevin mccarthy joining us here on "america's newsroom" and we'll ask about the gop's offer. what do they expect next from the white house? is there a tea party resurgence in the works? interesting information on that. new photos of george zimmerman the night trayvon martin was killed, and is kate middleton expecting twins? the scoop coming up. we'll see you then you ever notice that some people just have a knack for giving the perfect gift? they put real thought into it. and find just... the right...thing. how do they do that? more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. pick up a ridgid jobmax multi-tool starter kit and get a free head attachment. flavor, meet food. it's time for swanson flavor boost. concentrated broth in easy to use packets. mix it into skillet dishes, for an instant dose of... hell-o! [ female announcer ] get recipes at flavorboost.com. >> steve: remember steve austin, the $6 million man? >> gentlemen, we can rebuild him. we have the technol
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with president obama at the white house to talk about the fiscal cliff. after the meeting, the governors took questions from reporters outside the white house. >> good morning, everybody. i'm the chair of the national governors association, the governor of delaware. joined by governor fanl of oklahoma. she is the device -- she is the vice chair. we're also joined by governor herbert of utah. governor dayton of minnesota, governor walker of wisconsin. we just had what i would say was a very good meeting with the president. we came in part to make sure that the vouses and the issues that we face as governors and as states are heard and are considered as part of the discussions going on here in washington. the president was very open to that. said that we would continue to have a seat at the table. we talked about some of the issues that we often focus on as governors. one of those being opportunities for flexibility in terms of some of the programs that we partner with, with the federal government. he was very open to that as well. also recognizing, i believe, it was governor walker who brought
with congress to work on a solution to the fiscal cliff. in the afternoon they will meet with house speaker john boehner and governor jerry brown is not in that group. >>> tara is back, you know all about our commute, what is happening in pacifica. >>> well, to the northport tall bridge, they are able to stabilize that weak spot. right now we will take a live look headlights are flowing nicely as you make your way towards the mcarthur maze. up next, we have 880 up near the oakland coliseum, same story staff is flowing very nicely. it is dark up there but take my word for it, traffic is flowing nicely, 5:07 let's check with steve. >>> ukiah announced they can't hold a candle to what was there. heavier amounts will not be to the north. any rain on already saturated soil will need to be watched. one to two will cover it, i think this system will weaken considerably. it doesn't mean we will not get more rain. the pattern will change, there could be some morning drizzle in some of the higher elevations and rain in the north bay, you can see it there having returns near clover dale, winds near clover
president barack obama to work on the fiscal cliff. they will meet with house speaker john boehner, governor jerry brown is actually not in the group. >>> white house is rejecting the republican fiscal proposal. and it is a counteroffer to the one president barack obama offered last week. coming up, what the white house says is missing in the republican proposal. >>> time now time to bring tara back. if anybody is headed for the bay bridge, what do you want them to know. >> if we take a live look, this happens in just a matter of minutes and i bet you it is going on right now. so give yourself extra time if you are headed into the city right now. we can show you 580 westbound and then also up in the pittsburgh antioch area, slow going there on highway 4 as you make your way towards concord. last but not least, 280 san jose and traffic is moving along pretty well. 6:07 here is steve. >>> cloudy skies, now last hour, there has been some light rain in mendocino and down to salina, it is cloudy and a few areas of fog. this system is considerably weaker than the one we have and it looks like we w
spending cuts and tax increases known as the fiscal cliff. >> tonight we're no closer to a deal. mark matthews is here now with latest for us. >> it's been 16 days since president and leaders met to talk about avoiding ts fiscal cliff n that time, nothing much moved. now, we've got three weeks in change, and the failure will be felt by everyone. in san francisco's cafe, the owner has been watching the fiscal cliff creep closer hoping for a resolution. >> if they don't, it's going to be tough. >> he's talking about employ qleez can see income taxes increase by a couple thousand dollars. >> cost of living is really high. and tough to make especially in the city like san francisco. >> if congress ask the president can't reach an agreement, income taxes will go up on nearly all americans average family paying extra $2000 to $2400 a year, spending cuts mean cuts to education, transportation, research and development. there is a proposal to up airline fee that's could raise $1 billion cutting back on those who receive food stamps could bring in another $4 billion to $16 billion eliminating
.s. companies race to go beat the fiscal cliff, we'll take a look at the biggest payouts from morning at 10:30 london. in brussels, eurozone finance ministers getting ready to tackle banking union proposals. we'll have updates throughout the show. and are you going to hit the slopes during the holidays or in the course of the ski season? 11:40, we'll talk, yes, the ski season. one of the things that make winter great for the guest who for the time being is keeping warm in orlando, florida. we will do that. unemployment in spain has continued to rise, by 1.5% in november, pushing the total number to 4.2 million people. french finance minister says he's confident the buy back plan will go well. silvia is still there as they work their way towards banking union proposals. silvia, i don't know where -- i don't know if i want to talk about greece or not, whether i want to dive straight into the banking union and what chance have we possibly got of getting agreement. >> let's talk about greece, much more fun. no, greece we have to get out of the way. is the debt by back program going to be succes
republicans unveiling a bold proposal to avoid a so-called fiscal cliff. the white house didn't waste any time attacking it. kelly wright is live in washington with more on this. good morning, kelly. >> good morning to you. the back and forth is continuing in a letter with president obama. american people expect leaders to find fair middle ground with the nation's most pressing challenges. with that they propose is a counter over for the fiscal cliff. the republican plan has will00 billion for tax freerm 900 billion in mandatory spending cuts and 300 billion in discretionary cuts. the proposal falls short of what the president wants and cannot be taken seriously. >>> we understand they don't agree with everything the president has put on the table but we haven't seen alternatives for that. they have spoken about an avenue and that challenge is welcome. republican leaders have been adamant they don't believe rates ought to go up on the top 2 percent of wealthiest americans. the american people overwhelmingly disagree. the rates have to rise and republicans need to acknowledge that. >> the major
republicans have offered their own solutions to the fiscal cliff. but we're no closer to a deal. joining me now is senator isa isaacson. good morning, senator isaacson. i assume you stand by what you said just two weeks ago. so let me ask you this. the initial offer by speaker boehner, is it fair to say -- is it fair that the white house is calling it an unserious offer since it doesn't do anything on tax rates? >> no, i dent think so at all. i think it's more reflective of a simpson-bowles. it's a first step. i made a living selling houses for 33 years. i don't get people together until they finally sit down 0 at the table and negotiate. it's still too much posturing, too much the president wants it his way, somebody else wants it that way. i believe tom coburn was right. it's time to sit down in a room, see if we can work this out. going off the cliff would be a stupid idea. >> i want you -- david brooks this morning writes this in "the new york times." republicans have to realize that they are going to cave on tax rates. the only question is what they get in return. do you agree? >> not
the republican counteroffer, the proposal to avoid the so called fiscal cliff. it is a $2.2 trillion offer that does not raise the tax rate on the wealthiest americans and that has become the central issue of the negotiations. the white house says republicans still are not ready to get serious. susan mcginnis is in washington with the back and forth details. susan, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, terrell. gop leaders here on capitol hill sent their plan to the white house in this letter on monday, and now that both initial offers are out there, both sides say it's time to get serious. governors from six states are headed here to washington today to tell president obama their thoughts on the fiscal cliff. the bipartisan group says both sides need to work together to avoid the tax increases and spending cuts due to kick in at the end of the year. >> no one's going to get what they want, but as a country to move forward, we've got to figure out who gives where, and if everything is going to be out on the table, how do we negotiate that? >> reporter: republicans have given a co
the fiscal cliff crisis. they will also meet with john boehner. boehner counter proposal yesterday. $600 billion in cuts in entitlement and $250 billion in changes in way the government changes inflation that would impact social security. let me bring in the national journal from the editor. good morning. i want to talk to you about this republican proposal saying republicans in congress want to get serious about asking the wealthiest to pay slightly higher tax rates. we won't be able to achieve a significant balanced approach to the deficit. it does have some revenue in it, even though it's not from tax increases. so what does this opening offer say about where we are in these negotiations? >> well, it seems very difficult to imagine that we're going to be getting to a deal that will handle everything that needs to be addressed before the end of the year. i think the first main thing that needs to be addressed is the question of the tax cuts expiring. and for the obama administration, the question is, is it in their interest to trade tax cuts for the wealthy? increase for the wealthy fo
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that if this is not good enough for the white house, we will go over the fiscal cliff. >> the white house rejects a republican counter offer. >> john boehner sent a proposal that offers more than $2 trillion in deficit reductions but no tax increase. >> he will not sign an extension of the bush era tax cuts for the top 2%. >> folks worried about the fiscal cliff, are you like me? are you worried about it and have no idea what it is? >> according to state tv iran's revolutionary guard captured a u.s. drone after it entered the iriranian air space over the persian gulf. >> but u.s. navy official says there are no missing drones. >> prince william and his wife katherine, expecting their first child. >> after the duchess was admitted to hospital. >> that child could grow up to be one of the most powerful unemployed people in the world. >> a search is under way in new york for a man accused of pushing another man to his death in the subway. >>> rg3, he made opportunities. >> 17-16 washington redskins. >> all that -- >> why don't you shut up? >> you are an embarrassment. >>
of the year, whether it is fiscal cliffs relight tax related or just year-end book squaring and seeing in the last week, a lot of options activity you particularly put options, pets that we are going to see lower price. seeing more action around the 1675 level, something the traders are say is the next technical level to watch. keep your eye on the etfs and silver as well, sold off quite a bit today but still up about 18% year to date. back to you. >> thanks so much. bob pisani is here on the floor of the nyse, steady as she goes, caught in the narrow range today. >> sectors either side of positive or negative, a few individual groups are meeting, i want to highlight, a lot of questions about the retailers. historic high yesterday a number very weak. a lot of questions on gap. the reason gap is down is made some very cautious comments on gap, citing competition concerns, specifically talked about kohl's high inventory level that might cause them to be aggressive with promotions. weather unseasonably warm, not good for apparel. consumers hesitant. dashed.came out cutting guidance, own r
for its lackluster performance. republicans submitted their solution to the fiscal cliff yesterday. white house and other democrats dismissed it immediately. take a look at how that affected the market this morning. not at all. the dow is up 43. 13,000 is where we are. liz macdonald says we will see is a last minute deal, christmas eve, new year's eve, on the fiscal cliff. we shall see. next, a special early my take. i am fired up about the prospect of ambassador anna wintour. i couldn't wait for the normal time. i'm going to do it early. stay right there. and one of the most cited economists in the world. professor sargent, can you tell me what cd rates will be in two years? no. that's why ally has ia raise your rate cd.n. ally bank. your money needs an ally. stuart: california high taxes, strict green laws, a liberal supermajority in the statehouse, not exactly business friendly. that's why so many businesses are leaving. they are going to places like phoenix. so we're going to talk to the mayor of phoenix. greg stanton, what is he offering to the california refugees to get them to come
is meeting with a group of governors today as well as the president to discuss the ongoing fiscal cliff negotiations. that meeting is goodlett for the afternoon, the president meeting with governors this morning. you can find all of that , ourage, including tweets website. also happening this morning and brought much of the day, a group calling themselves campaign to fix the dead is discussing health care costs and the tax code. we will take a short lead to a discussion on the tax code led by the chairman of the finance committee, max baucus of montana. in the meantime, from this morning, a group that heard from rob portman and the director of the economic council gene sperling. we will show you as much of their remarks as we can until the portion with senator baucus gets under way. >> actually, they just give my speech. i would like to grow and not slow the economy. that is part of the answer to this. we may disagree on how we do it, but we are not going to get the fiscal house in order without having additional revenue, and that comes from growth. we also need to restrain spending, we
in congress if we go over the fiscal cliff. alison burns, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> 8:13. right now, president obama is meeting at the white house with a bipartisan group of governors. reportedly, those governors asked for the meeting with the president. they want to urge president obama to work with congress on the solution to the fiscal cliff. in the afternoon, the same group will meet with house speaker john boehner, california governor jerry brown, by the way, is not in this group. >>> 8:14. the owner of drake's bay oyster company is working with a legal team to fight the decision by the federal government to shut down his operation. kevin lenny announced yesterday he does not plan to give up the federal government's order to give up the company. oakland's largest pot club get as key victory in court. a county judge ruled that harborside medical center cannot be convicted -- evicted. the owner cannot kick the club out because it's not breaking state law. the landlord will try her luck. she wants harborside out because a federal prosecutor is threatening to seize the property. >>> 8:15. san
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. kevin ferry at the cme, kevin, we are watching the fiscal cliff every single day kind of watching negotiations as they play out. maybe that's not the wisest thing to do with the markets. what are the things that are popping up and have you thinking about stocks as we approach the end of the year? >> yeah, ats least it gives some type of day trade headline trade ability to it, but i think two things that i point out real quick as you indicated, yesterday's reversal finished on the low tick for the s&p. so that drive as lot of negative sentiment. there was a cheering, traders were oriented towards a down day yesterday. so there was some facilitation of the idea that when the ism came in weaker. so watch the point of control for the s&p. probably around 1414. and it would have to be back above there to alleviate some of that negative sentiment. and the other thing -- go ahead. >> why were they cheering somewhat's the negative sentiment, what's the reasoning behind that? >> one thing about trading on the front lines is you always have to try and give yourself an idea of what the tone
or not the rich are going to get taxed through the fiscal cliff, they're already getting taxed, right? through this. >> i think people forget there are lots of fiscal cliff taxes, but just what president obama wallets and, you know, forget about the fiscal cliff, what his mandate is, essentially, forces a lot of taxes, including income tax increases. if you look at obamacare, there's a surcharge on income. and, you know, it's pretty scary between that and the capital gains, we're talking about, you know, we're talking about hitting people with a huge tax bill. and we should point out that this is the alleged rich, the millionaires and billionaires who make $200,000 a year. martha: right, exactly. exactly right. [laughter] you know, if you live in a metropolitan area really anywhere across the country and you make $200,000 if you're an individual, $250,000 together if you're a couple and you have any investments, right? >> any investments, but also even if you don't have investments, i think there's a surcharge on income here, which, you know, aside from that. and i'll tell you, this is the rea
at the white house with president obama to discuss, what else? the fiscal cliff. states would be severely impacted because much of their revenue comes from the federal government. cnn white house correspondent dan lothian is at the white house. so, dan, who is trying to convince who? >> well, i think it's a little bit of both here. you have the president trying to sort of put pressure on them, if you will, these governors, to then they in turn should put pressure ontheir lawmakers to get a deal done. at the time the governors are here to let the president know there's some real consequences if this scenario plays out. a third of states out there get their revenue from federal grants according to a pew report, and that report also points out that states like virginia, for example, would be heavily impacted. why virginia? because it has a lot of military defense contractors. they're saying that they could be impacted to the tune of about $10 billion in economic activity falling. in addition to that, 120,000 jobs lost. take a look at a state like south dakota, for example. a very small state
discuss a little -- the latest with the fiscal cliff negotiations. republicans and joined obama to extend the bush era tax rates. first time university law professor looked at the history of the alternative minimum task -- tax. cluster e-mails, phone calls and tweets. tuesday at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. more about the tax loopholes and deductions that could be involved in negotiations over the fiscal cliff. from our special washington journal series, this is 50 mins. >> we turn our attention today to deductions and tax -- tax loopholes. joining us to talk about this is john mckennan, thank you for being here. what are loopholes and deductions? we hear those words a lot. guest: loopholes or tax breaks of all different sorts. whether you like a particular loophole or not depends on where you sit. there are lots of loopholes that are deductions. deductions are the ones most people are familiar with. the big itemize deductions are things like a home mortgage interest deduction. there is one for state and local taxes that is very important. the deduction for charitable contributions. then
it comes to taxes. as you all know by now house republicans sent in a fiscal cliff counter offer yesterday but the white house is calling it no good. i want to give you an idea of where the two sides stand right now. boehner's new plan would raise $2.2 trillion. now it would extend the bush tax cuts for everyone and yes that does include the top 2%. and it would instead raise $800 billion in revenue from so-called tax reform and that's what we mean when we talk about capping deductions and closing loopholes. the rest of the money comes from cuts to both mandatory and discretionary programs. now to recap again on the president's offer, he wants to raise $1.6 trillion, that's double boehner's amount on the rich an and he's asking for more than $200 billion in stimulus spending and promising about $400 billion worth of cuts to social programs. now obviously those two plans have very little in common. neither side is budging when it comes to their demands on taxes. but now here are a few problems with boehner's proposal.
house briefing for white house reaction to the negotiations on what's called the fiscal cliff and the republican counteroffer from yesterday coming january. in the meantime a look at the republican plan with oklahoma republican tom cole from this morning's washington journal. >> host: we want to welcome back to the table congressman tom cole, republican of oklahoma. let's begin with the news. house speaker john boehner sent a proposal to the white house yesterday, counterbid as it is being called. what do you think? >> guest: i think it is a great opening start. actually it makes very tangible with the speaker committed to after the election which is we are going to put it on the table so that question is settled and we are not talking about how much and what way, but that is an enormous step forward honestly by the republicans or concessions. not something we want to do but something we recognize we have to do to get there. so i think the speaker's proposal directs us to words what some of the problems are which are entitlement spending. that is what is driving the debt and w
-called fiscal cliff. president obama meets with bipartisan groups of governors about the problem today. the meeting a day after house speaker jonathan boehner laid a republican plan to solve the crisis on the table and calls for $800 billion in higher taxes revenue and does not increase taxes on wealthy americans. the white house is rejecting the offer, saying any deal must include an end to tax cuts for families making over $250,000. >>> and the senate has approved a new u.s. commander for the war in afghanistan. he's marine corporal general joseph doneford and replaces general john al llen, nominatedo head forces in europe. allen's nomination on hold because of his involvement in the sex scandal that brought down former cia director david petraeus. >>> in foreign news, new intelligence reports, indicate syria's government may be preparing to use chemical and biological weapons against the rebels. in response though, the u.s. and its allies are considering military options. here's abc's martha raddatz. >> reporter: the latest intelligence is alarming. officials telling abc news the u.
, what's known as the fiscal cliff. and they're talking about the economy as well with the senate majority leader, harry reid, and house speaker, john boehner. this after a 90-minute meeting with president obama at the white house this morning where they called for a quick resolution. the governors spoke to reporters at the white house for 15 minutes after that meeting and we'll show you as much as we can until the house gavels in in just a few minutes. >> well, goorn, everybody. i'm jack, the chair of the national governors association, the governor of delaware, joined by governor fallen of oklahoma, she's the vice chair -- governor fallin of oklahoma, she's the vice chair. the governor of arkansas. we are three democrats and three republicans. we just had what i would say was a very good meeting with the president. we came in part to make sure that the voices and the issues that we face as governors in states are heard and considered as part of the discussions going on here in washington. the president was very open to that. said we would continue to have a seat at the table. we
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